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Latest post 09-20-2008 5:23 PM by Aleasha. 41 replies.
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swyatt2


- Joined on 05-23-2008
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Here's a quick and easy one from Dr. Ihor Basko, a vet in Hawaii.
1/2C pureed cooked apple, 1/2C pureed cooked carrots, 1 and 1/4C each brown rice flour, barley flour, and millet flour. Combine all, and rollout 1/4" thick. Bake at 350 degrees for 12-15min or until golden. I'm sure you can add some honey for flavor without any problem. It also seems that the mix may be dry, not that I am a baker, but, you may want to add a little shortening to the mix as well.
I did see a recipe that called for chicken, so, I will get back to you an that.
And Yeah, the severs are REALLY SLOW. Very frustrating at times. Maybe we should write a post under "What We Like and Don't Like About the Site".
Susie
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CorgiMomma


- Joined on 07-13-2008
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I'm not a baker, just a dabbler. :) When I get ideas for cookies they always seem to come out very wet, I end up adding more flour. Just a trial by fire and trying to keep track of my final proportions. :)
Hope it's all going well! I am nose deep in my massage school studies now! WhooHoo! Keep cool!!
(keeping message short in case server monster eats it)
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swyatt2


- Joined on 05-23-2008
- Gulf Port, Florida
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I hope that school is going well. I am not much of a baker either. there is a website, www.bullwrinkles.com that has tons of puppy cookie recipes.
And it's REALLY HOT here.
Susie
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CalloftheDog


- Joined on 05-22-2008
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If you bake, you are a baker! Keep at it and who ever you do
it for will love ya and the "what ever" does not have to be perfect. I will offer an
unsolicited tip for you to use as an approximate guide, I hope it helps.
The basic all-purpose flour/liquid ratio is 2 1/2 to 3 cups
flour depending on the time of year -- more flour in the summer, less in the
winter, to 1 1/4 cups liquid, such as
water or milk, as well as anything which becomes liquid or semi-liquid when
heated.
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swyatt2


- Joined on 05-23-2008
- Gulf Port, Florida
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So, does that mean that YOU'RE a baker? I didn't know that, and I'm definately NOT a baker!
Susie
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CalloftheDog


- Joined on 05-22-2008
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It was an area that I had a strong business presence a long long time ago.
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swyatt2


- Joined on 05-23-2008
- Gulf Port, Florida
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You obviously have many talents!
Susie
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CorgiMomma


- Joined on 07-13-2008
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Thanks for the link Susie, I couldn't get it to work the first time I tried but I will give it another go after a while. :) I like this site http://www.dog-treat-recipe-exchange.com/ . It's really cute and just fun to look over.
Thanks for the tip Jay!! I am writing this down and saving it! Byngham enjoys when I make cookies for him and my human family members like when I make people goods (banana bread, chocolate chip oatmeal cookies, etc.) I like to bake when I have time, and I insist on hand stirring ingredients when I can, it's just a 'Made with Love' feeling. :) Thanks for the help!
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CorgiMomma


- Joined on 07-13-2008
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Jay! I have one more question! I have used powdered oatmeal and wheat flour in the past and am looking to try something different. Are there any other flours that you could recommend?? =)
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CalloftheDog


- Joined on 05-22-2008
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The flour that we use for baking comes mainly from wheat; however it can
be milled from corn, rice, nuts, legumes, and some fruits and vegetables. The different
flours as you would surmise all have different properties and perform
differently so you cannot switch from one type to another without consequences
that could ruin the recipe. To achieve success in baking, it is important to
know what the right flour is for the job! All-purpose flour is a blend of hard
and soft wheat be it bleached or unbleached Flour that’s bleached naturally because of the ageing process
gets the designation of “unbleached," and chemically treated flour is
labeled "bleached." The Bleached flour has less protein than
unbleached but Bleached is best for pie crusts, cookies, quick breads. The Whole-wheat flour is made from the
whole kernel of wheat and is higher in dietary fiber and nutrient content than white flours. It does not
contain as high a gluten level and that is why it is often mixed with
all-purpose or bread flour when making yeast breads. Instant flour (Gold Medal
and wondra etc.) is granular so it will dissolve quickly in hot or cold
liquids. It is not and will not work as a substitute for all-purpose flour, yes
you will see recipes on the container for popovers and various baked goods but
it is really meant to be used primarily for sauces and gravies. Cake flour is
milled to a fine-texture and is soft-wheat flour with a high starch content and
the lowest protein content of any wheat flour. It is chlorinated which is the bleaching
process used that makes the flour very slightly acidic. This helps a cake set
faster and distribute the fats more evenly through the batter which improves
the texture. This flour will be better able to hold its rise and will be less
liable to collapse when you're making baked goods with a high ratio of sugar to
flour. If you cannot find cake flour, substitutes bleached all-purpose flour,
but subtract 2 tablespoons of flour for each cup used in the recipe. Pastry
flour is also is made with soft wheat and falls in between all-purpose and cake
flour when it comes to protein content and baking properties. This flour is a
big favorite to bakers for making biscuits, pie crusts, brownies, cookies and
quick breads. It makes a tender but crumbly pastry. The down side is it is not
readily available at supermarkets, but you can find it at specialty stores.
Hope I did not complicate or confuse the issue more, but this should clear up
some of the mystery that you may or may not have known was there. Its all in
the flower and the ratio. Never be afraid to experiment just do it in
manageable batches and if possible different formulas at the same time for comparison
if you are really interested.
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swyatt2


- Joined on 05-23-2008
- Gulf Port, Florida
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That was a lot of information. You are quite knowledgable! What would the best flour be if one wanted an alternative to wheat flour?
Susie
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CalloftheDog


- Joined on 05-22-2008
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I assume we are talking about cookies for the canine members of the family, and in that case Oat flour is a candidate to consider. It produces products that are a little heavier textured than wheat products and It happens to rises pretty well in yeast breads, and the good part is it can be made fresh by putting rolled oats in a blender. Use 2/3 to 1 cup for each cup of wheat flour. You can also use spelt. Spelt is a member of the same grain family as wheat and oat but is an entirely different species and has more nutrition and is a good tasty whole grain. Organic, unbleached spelt flour is the same grain with most of the bran (fiber) removed, and nothing added. If the name rings a bell it maybe because it is one of the seven (I think it is seven) grains mentioned in the bible. To the germans it is called Dinkel and they use it for a variety of foods and beverages from bread to beer. The Italians call it "Farro" and is found in soups, pizza crusts, breads and cakes. Spelt is easily digested and is considered beneficial for indigestion, gas and nausea. It's rich in essential fatty acids and higher in fiber than wheat "Spelt absorbs more water than other grains and so you must use more flour. Bake at a lower temperature for a longer time, it may take some experimentation for you. And the only other candidate I feel comfortable in suggesting is Barley flour. It has a mild flavor but a heavier texture compared to wheat. If you try to make bread with it, it does not rise to well in yeast breads. Use 1/2 to 1 cup for each cup of wheat flour called for.
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swyatt2


- Joined on 05-23-2008
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We are indeed talking about dog cookies. I haven't baked in years due to the fact that I never had a reliable oven. Now I do. I think my husband may be jealous if I make cookies for the dogs, but, when I make cookies for him, he doesn't eat them!
I have heard of spelt, and it's available at the health food store, as pasta and flour. I have wanted to try it for myself and the dogs. I may go ahead and give it a go.
I did make a batch of dog food today using all quinoa, and lots of veggies. It seems a little mushy compared to the rice/quinoa mixture. Will let you know how the kids like it.
Thanks for all the info. You are indeed a treasure trove!
Susie
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CorgiMomma


- Joined on 07-13-2008
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Thanks you two!! I am eager to try flours without wheat, if I have a lot of cookies left over I like to take them to work and share with my co-workers dogs and I don't want to push wheat on anyone who may have an allergy to it. I have used oat flours before (where I grind up my own rolled oats in the food processor) but everything comes out pretty 'wet' so I think I need to increase the ratio of wet to dry. I was looking at a website that has harder to find grains and goods and came across Sweet Potato Flour and thought that it sounded pretty interesting. I have heard of giving dogs dehydrated sweet potatoes as an alternative to rawhide but had never heard anything about the flour. Jay, have you any experience with this?
Thanks for hitting the questions Susie! You should be a reporter! haha! 
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CalloftheDog


- Joined on 05-22-2008
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totally forgot about sweet potato and it makes terrific
bread. I heard that during WWI the govt used it to stretch regular flour
supplies. Wheat is in the grass family, orange and white sweet potatoes are in
the Morning glory family, regular white potatoes, are in the night-shade family. White sweet
potato flour is high in fiber and can be used as a good thickener for gravies,
soups, stews and sauces as well as to make muffins, milk, imitation nut butter,
cookies, breads, pancakes (often mixed with rice flour), dough-nuts, dumplings,
pasta, bagels and who knows what else. I have had experience with bread and pie
and as a sauce thickener but I know it can be tried for so much more.
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